To Bill Donahue: FUCK Jesus

Bill Donahue of the Catholic League (yes, that Catholic League) is, as usual, all bent out of shape. Donahue is upset about ESPN anchorwoman Dana Jacobson’s comments during a celebrity roast (roast, y’know, those events where people are encouraged to make edgy comments). Jacobson, reportedly intoxicated at the time, exclaimed “Fuck Notre Dame”, “Fuck Touchdown Jesus”, and “Fuck Jesus”. Donahue is also upset because he does not think that ESPN and Jacobson have done enough to address the situation. According to Donahue, a formal apology from Jacobson and a one-week suspension from ESPN “fails on several counts” to address what he views as hate speech.

Donahue compared Jacobson’s remarks to racist and anti-Semitic remarks. What a ridiculous comparison. How does scorning Jesus constitute a hate crime? Who is being hated here? At most, it is Jesus who is being hated. Is Jacobson not allowed to have and express her own opinions on Jesus? The US is a secular nation. Ergo, the mythology of Jesus is not assured any sort of special status over other mythologies or other people, living or dead.

When one says “nigger” or “kyke” they are slandering an entire group of people on the basis of their uncontrollable racial group. When one criticizes Jesus, they do no such thing. No one is forced to become emotionally attached to a religious tale. If people and communities want to foolishly attach themselves to their beliefs that’s their right, but this does not mean that others should have to limit their freedom of speech in consequence.

Hat Tip: Dispatches from the Culture Wars

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5 Responses to “To Bill Donahue: FUCK Jesus”
  1. postthought says:

    I wish I could say that on national TV. And you’re absolutely right. It seems that this government and the religious people running it don’t understand that this country was founded on the ideals of freedom (unless that was a farce as well, who knows, maybe they meant freedom to be and do as we say). This includes freedom of religion or the lack thereof. Here we have each religion damning the others to hell and a yet if you have none you have no right to condemn all. to this I say not only fuck Jesus, but god as well……and fuck all the brainwashing religious institutions of the world who not only profit from all their followers support but also stuff their pockets with the hard earned money of people who have nothing but the faith of god to keep them going and barely any food on their table. That, to me is the ultimate insult and abuse. I’ve been to South American countries where this happens. They give money to the church instead of using it for food because they think that it’s a good deed and that it makes them good people and I guess it does….the disgusting part is that they take it…..they take it with no shame. And while these poor, ignorant, faithful people are sitting at home praying for some miracle to happen, the pastor is at home stuffing his face in a warm house. Do people think that this is any different in the US?….maybe the circumstances are different but doesn’t that make it that much worse. The people ( I’m speaking only of a portion of South Americans to make my example, I don’t mean all by any means…but there are many slums in S.A. and they are all religious) in South America that I speak of are poor and therefore uneducated; most from uneducated parents and grandparents. So with the advantages that we have in this country, where being poor doesn’t mean that we cannot be educated, what’s our excuse? Why do educated people still believe? And if most of them really don’t (which is what I believe) why the charade….? You seem to be more knowledgeable about this than I, so maybe you can explain to me what I’m missing.

  2. ronbrown says:

    Postthought:
    I think there are lots of reasons for belief in the US despite education. People receive religious belief and ritual indoctrination from a very young age, years before their ability for effective critical thought comes in. Once this early framework is set in place and has served for years as a framework for forming beliefs and understanding the world (e.g., in terms of right and wrong, what is meaningful and important, social connections, justice), it could understandably be very difficult to question the validity of these beliefs. Then on top of this there is often a lot of social pressure—in many places one risks ostracism by their family and/or community for leaving the faith. The fear of losing one’s grip on reality, meaning, and purpose, losing one’s grip on right and wrong, of having to entertain the notion that justice in this world is by no means assured, and on top of this, the fear of ostracism from one’s family and community could form the most powerful set of reasons for dogmatism. The person risks abandoning much of their most important “knowledge” and social support.

    I figure that there probably are a decent proportion of believers that do have some doubt. However, I don’t think that most believers are living a charade. I think that most believers are genuinely committed to their beliefs, even though they have some underlying doubt—however deep down it may be.

    But I do figure that there is also a sizeable minority of believers that are putting up a front. I imagine that at least 25% of high-ranking Democrat politicians are full out lying (I’m actually personally inclined to figure the number is far higher than this, but I’ll be conservative for the sake of argument). Roughly 16% of Americans *admit* to being atheists or agnostics according to recent polls. The numbers are known to increase with socioeconomic status. High-ranking politicians are among the highest status people on the planet, and have generally received top rank education.

    Given the social pressures of religious communities and the fear of ostracism, I figure that there is probably a sizeable minority of fakers among the faithful.

    I think that an important step toward making people more willing to question their faith is the provision of other options for community and the pursuit of happiness and meaning. I would like to eventually help build a community which embraces many of the positive aspects of religion (e.g. supportive community, teaching love and kindness, providing a social forum for the development of wisdom and wellbeing) but which does away with the dogmatism and replaces it with open-minded skepticism and curiosity and intellectual honesty. I would like to see many of the wise developments in buddhist philosophy and practice (but without the faith components), such as mindfulness meditation, teachings such as the danger of investing oneself in externals (e.g., beliefs, possessions, status, others), and so forth. I would also bring in the philosophical and scientific curiosity of the ancient Greeks and modern academia. And of course, there would be community building activities such as social events, charity work, group projects, support groups and so on.

  3. ronbrown says:

    I have created a new post for postthought’s comments and my response.

  4. notagain says:

    Jesus is/was/could’ve been a person, yes. He was like a religious and political figure. That said, US laws are actually such that political speech has the most leeway as far as censorship and government interaction (otherwise we’d just be another dictatorship). This isn’t always the case, but it’s the principal…

    At any rate, aren’t all you are doing is whining that someone else is using their freedom of speech to call something “hate speech”? If he threatened legal action he would be shot down, all he can do is incite idiots to follow him. And that’s been happening since the beginning of humanity.

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