The “Oppression” of Christians in America

It’s become somewhat popular among hardline Christians in America to claim that they are being oppressed. “The scientific community is oppressing Intelligent Design” (which isn’t scientific, is based on no evidence, makes no predictions, and has been proven to be nothing more than Creationism in a cheap disguise, and was even rejected outside of the scientific community as science by Christian and conservative Bush-appointed judge John Jones). “The ACLU and secularists are trying to take our Christianity away from us” (by merely trying to uphold the church-state separation guaranteed in the Constitution). Maybe these sensitive hardline Christians are right. Maybe everything in America is simply stacked against them. It would have to be in order for this depiction to be true:

Incessant whining doesn’t necessarily mean that one is being oppressed. You might just be a spoiled child. Or maybe a bitch.

13 Responses to “The “Oppression” of Christians in America”
  1. Cody says:

    That pie-chart makes Christianity look like Pac-Man…

  2. Chris­™ says:

    If Christianity is Pac Man, I hope that doesn’t infer that non-Christians are doomed to becomes the ghosts of America.

    Christians seem to think that they’re being oppressed anytime their individual views aren’t being thrust upon everyone else. I highly doubt they’ll ever realize their own fervent aggression and allow other people to live their own choices.

    • Eli says:

      There’s actually a strong movement against the seizure of power by Christians in America, an answer to the fundamentalist movement. I don’t think many Christians in America have a right to claim oppression at all. oppression means being hunted down and eliminated, not politically disinclined for matters of legislature.

      • Anonymous says:

        oh really? being hunted down and eliminated is the only definition for oppression? then what do you call being denied basic rights?

  3. Samantha says:

    Growing up in a non-religious home and attending an ivy league institution where religious dialogue is significantly biased on the side of atheism, I can definitely attest to the fact that I have been a victim of this oppression and seen others suffer the consequences for merely stating they believe in a God. Speaking out against this intellectual oppression is not whining it is just standing up against religious intolerance. You can’t hate someone for what they believe or call names because that severely degrades your open-mindedness and ability to understand cultures outside of your personal bubble. Believe me I’m accustomed to listening to Atheists and just because I don’t entirely agree with some of their opinions does not make me any better or them any worse. I would just appreciate if atheists in this community could understand that hateful language below is a step backward for intellectual dialogue:
    “Incessant whining doesn’t necessarily mean that one is being oppressed. You might just be a spoiled child. Or maybe a bitch.”

    • Eli says:

      you do have a point, sometimes in america, toleration for religious movements means that they’re kept private and never discussd in private. in many cases america has replaced sexuality with religion in it’s neo-victorianism. instead of not discussing sex we vehemently don’t discuss religion.

      fundamentalism, atheist or religious is always a problem.

  4. L. Ron Brown says:

    Do you know much about Princeton? I visited it a few times while I was a grad student at Rutgers. It seems to still be very much an old boys type school were conservativism still has a healthy social grasp.

    Next, obviously the Ivy’s are an aberation from the norm with regard to social climate regarding theism.

    Next, what intellectual oppression? Some ideas are substantiated, some aren’t. Would you say that I am being intellectually oppressive if I rightly point out that it is unreasonable to believe in astrology?

    As for a step-backward for intellectual dialogue, here’s a big one: dogmatism. Such as religious dogmatism. The theistic debates should not even exist because the evidence for the validity of theistic claims is terrible and yet most people either don’t actually think about it or they stubbornly refuse to seriously evaluate their beliefs while they walk around with a sense of entitlement for intellectual respect when their intellectual practices are anything but respectable.

    Next, I’m very open-minded. I’m open to evidence and to different ways of living. But I also apply reason to considerations of truth claims and moral claims (with regard to moral claims, I apply reason with respect to considerations of empathy and the Golden Rule). It is the open-minded person that applies reason in an honest fashion. If everyone did this, theism would not exist as anything more than a relic of history that was currently viewed as merely a possibility but not one for which belief is warranted.

    Also, notice how people can be even more harsh than I was in this posting with regard to debate of a secular topic without having observers chastise them for it anywhere near as much as people like me are chastised for addressing religion.

    You might want to read my most recent post (on Madeline Neumanna and why society is ill-advised to treat religious beliefs as being beyond scrutiny), as it addresses many relevant themes.

  5. Damon says:

    Christians have been playing the “oppressed” card right back to the beginning… there is no evidence that Herod ever called for a mass baby-slaughter ‘cos he got some bad news from his court astrologers… and the history of European anti-semitism owes much to the alleged “evidence” of conspiracy by the Jewish elite against Christ and his followers, as presented in the gospels.
    Then, of course, followed genuine persecution in pagan Rome (but we all know how that story turned out in the end).

    Personally, I think Christians have complaints of oppression such a politically useful tool over the centuries that it has become their default “game plan” – they are so used to using it now, that they can’t imagine a world-view without it. Of course, the fact that Christianity is dualisitic in outlook (a “good God” vs. “big bad Satan” – a marked contrast to the “do as I say not as I do” monotheistic God of the Jewish tradition) and basically a doomsday cult, probably has much to do with Christianity’s delusions of persecution as well. You can’t have Armageddon without an opposition, can you?

  6. Karen G. says:

    I think everyone misses the point. It is not for science to deem our beliefs as real or unreal. It is not the purpose of a Christian to disprove a scientific theory. What we believe–our faith–is a matter of personal choice. It does not make sense to tell a person that his/her faith is without reason. Spiritual matters do not work like that. Are we oppressed as Christians? Maybe socially we are, but why fight it. If what we believe is that our bible clearly tell us that these things will happen, then we knew that they would. A fight is moot. The best course of action for any Christian is to prove to sinners that we are not the oppressors, and our God is not the oppressor. Showing the “world” the love and light of Christ is our message and our work. We cannot complete this work with hatred and anger. Pray for your enemies and in time the basis for our faith WILL be proven by God himself.

    • sparksintexas says:

      But often the oppression they speak of is the oppression of not being able to lead a group of mixed religious views in prayer and making the ones who object stand silently in respect. The oppression of not having their faith taught in the science classrooms to people who may not hold the same beliefs. The oppression that their religious laws are not entered into the laws of the United States and enforceable by the gun of the government. The oppression of not being able to discriminate in hiring or promotion based on a person’s different religious beliefs or their gender. The oppression of not being able to stop other people from marrying their same sex partner.

      No one is forcing Christians not to pray or preventing them from attending church or not allowing them to dress as befits their beliefs. In fact, the government bends over backwards to assist them by providing police, fire, and other protections without the churches paying any taxes to offset the cost. The churches are allowed to fire people from schools just because of legal behavior outside of the schools in their homes. The churches are allowed to discriminate in hiring by not hiring anyone who doesn’t follow their religion. This is true even in colleges such as Baylor where the person is not teaching theology.

  7. Jeff says:

    ISIAIh 41 BRING forth your IDOLS did they PREACH to you see they can’t speak they can’t DO ANYTHING all they do is cause confusion. Jeremiah 10 they nail thier IDOL down like a scarecrow it can’t move cant speak can’t move must be carired these are nothing but the WORK of CON men. spalms 115 graven images have eyes but cant see have ears but cant hear have noses but cant smell and those that make them shall become like them. john 10 jesus christ sais his sheep hear his voice and another voice thy will not follow and if another person tries to preach to them they WILL FLEE from him. jeremiah 5 the priests bear rule on thier own authority what will you do when your judged my word is not inside them. Now here is the kicker john 5 son of man voice goes back in time mathew 16 jesus christ claims to be the son of man. ‎1 cor2 mind of CHRIST preached internally and john 16 sais the spirit of truth comes in the future. Ezekiel 13 lying prophets of ISRAEL my word is not inside them saying god sais god sais god sais wrote hoping mankind would CONFIRM thier WORDS. all of this is EASILY verifiable.

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